It takes a religious mind to…

…let your daughter die, whilst you pray for her. Of course, we could do what most apologists do and dismiss this case as one of extremism. But surely it takes a tenuous (if not nonexistent reason) justification like that of religion to have such things take place? Would this happen if the individuals concerned were atheists? Surely not.

Discuss.

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9 Responses to It takes a religious mind to…

  1. Brian says:

    “Would this happen if the individuals concerned were atheists?”

    Not unless they were very confused athiests who did a bit of praying on the side. Not a lot…just the odd prayer fix. I could give it up anytime I wanted, honest. Just let me have one Hail Mary and a quick Our Father on me tab and then I’ll never do it again, promise.

  2. natfrobinson says:

    Joseph Stalin. Look him up.

    While Hitler claimed to be a Christian, many of the once-secret documents of Nazi Germany make it clear that he found religion a useful tool at best; once he had established complete control he would abolish all religion. He was a twisted social Darwinist at best.

    What about Mao?

    One woman made a stupendously stupid mistake. She didn’t do it out of hatred or intolerance. Destruction is destruction, death is death, intolerance is intolerance, stupidity is stupidity and religion is religion.

    Death, either purposefully inflicted or otherwise, has nothing to do with religion. Her stupidity manifested through religion in this case, instead of petty spite or greed. Those with her were no better.

    This case does not prove to me, or disprove, the existence of God. It proves to me that a handful of people can be stupid about their religion. Mao and Stalin proved to me that people can be stupid about their lack of religion.

    (I’m kind of sick of these anti-religion threads.. they’re kind of stale)

  3. nlthinking says:

    I think it takes faith to do something as incredibly stupid as this, Nat. You can’t subtract the faith from this event; it’s the elephant in the room.

    Mao and Stalin were evil; they weren’t evil because they were atheists. They were evil because they were dictators. Thsi is a reverse ad hominem logic fallacy, Nat.
    Conversely, there’s no evidence to suggest the religious mother was evil, regardless of her faith.

  4. natfrobinson says:

    “Conversely, there’s no evidence to suggest the religious mother was evil, regardless of her faith.”

    That’s really all I want to hear 😛

  5. nlthinking says:

    Reuben.

    But her evil act was brought about by her pious faith, Nat. That’s the point.

  6. Brian says:

    Can’t help thinking that she might have been a bit stupid and morally bankrupt even if she’d never heard of religion. You’ve got to admit though, the religion didn’t really help.

  7. natfrobinson says:

    No, religion doesn’t help, but it wasn’t the cause. And I strongly doubt that it was an evil act. It was a stupid act, but she had no evil intent; she actively wanted to save her child, and went about it in the worse possible way.

  8. Brian says:

    “No, religion doesn’t help, but it wasn’t the cause.”

    You mean in the same way that ‘Guns don’t kill – People do’?

  9. Reuben says:

    Excellent analogy, Brian. Religion was the cause in this case. You doubt it was an evil act, then what sort of act was it if not a morbidly religious one?

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